The Chat Thread!

arkansassy

Thanks for your speedy reply, havok, I'm so confused. Nothing new though. lol

So I should NOT tell the streamer he HAS to change over to IRC beta in order to get chat to work?

havokk

Yw!

Right, he just needs to send an email to russell@twitch.tv to sign up for beta chat and just use chat like he normally would.

catreina

IRC and Webchat are not in sync at all - doesnt look like this is even remotely "stable" as was claimed. Not good.  I will email what I am about to post

IRC chat:

[Sat, Apr 21, 2012 - 16:06:19] <@jsauce2> just so you know, if you are in irc and chatting, people on the web chat may not be seeing it

[Sat, Apr 21, 2012 - 16:06:46] <@jsauce2> i.e. you might have been talking to yourself for a while

[Sat, Apr 21, 2012 - 16:07:22] <@jsauce2> for instance, jackula I can't see your chats in the web chat but i can see them in irc

[Sat, Apr 21, 2012 - 16:07:38] <synt> you asked jackula if he could see  what you wrote

[Sat, Apr 21, 2012 - 16:07:46] <jackula8> yeah i saw that 1 line

[Sat, Apr 21, 2012 - 16:08:09] <jackula8> prior to that jsauce was quiet

[Sat, Apr 21, 2012 - 16:08:15] <@jsauce2> its so damn random

[Sat, Apr 21, 2012 - 16:08:26] <@jsauce2> i assure you i wasn't quiet

[Sat, Apr 21, 2012 - 16:08:33] <nhutchen> why can't we see cat's LoL client?

Same timeframe and what not, WEB chat:

» just so you know, if you are in irc and chatting, people on the web chat may not be seeing it

» i.e. you might have been talking to yourself for a while

» for instance, jackula I can't see your chats in the web chat but i can see them in irc

» its so damn random

» i assure you i wasn't quiet

4:08 Nhutchen: why can't we see cat's LoL client?

4:08 Mod Jsauce2: just realized the chat isn't in sync again

» cabin in the woods is pretty awesome

» Joss Whedon is awesome

Note that SYNT and jackula8 text is in IRC, but not web chat - this happens randomly and in both directoins.  It could be webchat getting it and IRC not, or IRC getting it and Web not.   GG

ohyou

Many many disconnects, "no such channel" and "you must join the channel before writing in in" problems.
Chat is very bad last ~half of a month.

Fire

@catreina it's still in beta silly, bug reports are exactly what are needed at this point.

Syncing is not a stability issue (it's a usability issue), load and uptime are :P

iccold

Yeah now im getting "You need to join the room before you can talk in it."   and "No such channel." and sometimes I get told I am sending messages too fast even if they are pretty far apart, more than 10 seconds at least

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koopahtroopah

I still get disconnected and get "no such chat room" error.

draco355

Sent that email over to you Horror.

Hope that beta chat server testing is going well, because it's pretty bad now. :(

koopahtroopah

Yeah me too, it's really annoying that I can't read anything my chat is typing :(

pr0phetzz

I keep getting an error when I try to talk it says "
No such channel." wtf?!

catreina

@fire - sorry if I came across as feeling like this should be "more" than a beta - that was not the point. As I said, I would be emailing that to the bug report email address as well, because it is, as you said, a bug report.

Meh about the stability vs usability. Technicalities =)

imtheantinoob

Twitch.tv staff, viewers, and streamers all know the chat is having major issues currently. Do we know if progress is being made, when the problem could be fixed by, ectra. Every hour my chat restarts. 10 mins out of every hour my chat is back down. The issue may be when a chat restarts, jtv server has to give channel operator status to all of the mods (even thos offline) which is strange. Before these problems began occuring it only gave operator status to those who are inside the channel. I am glad to see that twitch.tv staff is working on the issue and Horror makes a excellent point why the beta is important. The sad part is that many people's chats are normal and only have a few hicups and others have major issues like myself. (it was so bad I had to just send viewers to my own irc channel).

Hopefully the problem is fixed soon.

:)

arkansassy

Sorry for adding more headaches to the twitch staff, but all of the above. I'm sure y'all are working hard to fix the problem, but please work faster. thank you.

Itaku

Found this out today:

If you use IRC on the new chat, connect to 199.9.250.146 for now, not 142. Any messages that are sent on .142 won't be seen by most people.

kingbu

There's a lot of inconsistencies with the current chat. Sometimes the things I type doesn't go through, sometimes it does. Sometimes people type stuff to me and I can't see it but I can only see it on stream. It's very weird, don't know if anyone else is experiencing this.

bgeorge

@kingbu - Yes, that is a BIG problem with beta chat right now.

nukocafe

i can't believe this a week in and the chat's still broken. constantly spamming welcome messages, i keep getting "you must be in a channel to chat", and "no such channel". When I refresh the chat takes at least 2-3 minutes to actually load on top of that. Do I have to just go broadcast elsewhere until this is fixed?? （ಠ_ಠ）

gianninokiri

I Got A Question When I Watch Or Do A Stream The Chat Takes Forever To Load The Chat And Even When Im Offline And It Never Works

zerenade

This chat has been broken for over a week, a long time.  Not good at all.  It would be one thing if it were temporary, but the fact that one of the main features of the site has not been functional for this long is ridiculous.

There are several streams I watch and follow, and it is troublesome to communicate with the broadcaster or the viewers because of this.

I seriously hope this is taken care of soon.

grifforzer

@catreina

I had message(s) I typed in the  "justin.jtvirc" chat not show up on the html chat because my name was logged in "twice".

I guess if you log in IRC log. one should log out of the website chatroom.

bgeorge

@grifforzer - This is a different issue.

bgeorge

TMI bug where you would be kicked from the server for using non-ASCII/international characters has been fixed.

jsauce

How do I remove this thing, I'm 34 years old and not only am I an advocate of free speech but I am old enough to hear or read whatever I want without someone telling me I can't. I checked the options and was unable to find anything that allowed me to remove this nonsense chatswear filter you have now suddenly installed for me. So if you could please instruct me on how to do this, it would be much appreciated.

bgeorge

Quoting Horror: "The old chat one is a bug since it cant be turned off, and the one on chat beta is us building the new chat filter. There is still no option to turn it off but we are working on it. At the very least it doesn't have stupid words like "link" and "spam" banned anymore. Only actual offensive, and curse words 

Once you can switch it off life will be normal."

jsauce

Not to be a jerk about this, but having been a programmer for a long time, I normally wouldn't impliment any such feature that didn't have an off switch already included. It makes little sense to do so, and just further annoys the people who have had to put up with all the recent chat issues that have plagued JTV/Twitch. Also I should point out its not a very good chat filter at that, as I've already found words that most would consider offensive that I can use. In, fact while I don't want to point out exactly how easy it is to defeat the swear filter just know that almost any swear can get through if you know how to.

catreina

HOW DARE YOU IMPLEMENT CENSORSHIP IN MY CHANNEL WITHOUT A) TELLING ME YOU WERE DOING SO, AND B) GIVING ME A METHOD TO TURN IT OFF

THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE, NO MATTER THE EXCUSE YOU GIVE

havokk

@catreina, lets not overreact..

Quoting Horror: "The old chat one is a bug since it cant be turned off, and the one on chat beta is us building the new chat filter. There is still no option to turn it off but we are working on it. At the very least it doesn't have stupid words like "link" and "spam" banned anymore. Only actual offensive, and curse words 

Once you can switch it off life will be normal."

catreina

The fact is that it is censorship - censorship that I was not informed of, not consulted on, and cannot turn off.

I am against censorship of any kind. This is hands down censorship - no excuses, no "we will implement it in a later update', no words or anything else can excuse this. You are implementing censorship on your channels without your partner providers input, consent, or ability to remove said censorship.

I dont give a rats ass why it is there. I do not care that it will be "back to normal" later. I do not want to hear excuses - I want the censorship gone, now.

catreina

Also - havokk - this is not an overreaction. Not even remotely.

I want my chat to be on Quakenet from this moment forward. I do not care that I wont have the "extras" from the twitch chat - I dont care that I lose "capabilities" - I want my chat the way I want my chat.  Who do I have to talk to in order to get this implemented, because I am done with the chat issues. Done.

Horror

You are indeed doing just that, over reacting. And you need to stop.

We are doing our best to build that chat as quickly as possible, and freaking out over something so entirely small is not needed.